Why I'm choosing Duke over MIT
I know a lot of people are trying to decide between schools and offers right now, so maybe you'll find one man's internal dialogue interesting. Mine is a classic case of putting the rankings aside and finding the program with the best overall fit. It's also a case where a lot of intangibles add up to something very tangible.
I am fortunate enough to have been accepted at both Fuqua and Sloan. After B-school, I intend to pursue a career in the healthcare industry. Fuqua has an amazing Health Sector Management program that I'm excited about. I was doubly fortunate to be also accepted to MIT's Biomedical Enterprise Program. This small 3 year program involves a Sloan MBA + a Master's from the Harvard-MIT Health Sciences Technology division. (Just writing "Harvard-MIT" makes me want to pause and reconsider this whole decision.) Three months ago, Sloan's BEP was my first choice. Heck, after I interviewed there, I said "If accepted, how could I not go?!" But after weeks of meditation on the subject, it's become a very close call. Here are my reasons why:
1) Boston vs. Durham. My wife and I are expecting our first child in a couple of months. Boston is great and all, but it's not the ideal place to be a poor student raising a baby. Durham on the other hand, offers plenty of new, spacious housing with super low rents. Even better, no lead paint! If I were 26, Boston would be the most exciting place in the world; however, I'm 30, I lived in Manhattan for five years, and my wife and I just escaped to the suburbs -- I'm not exactly going to get excited about Boston's wide selection of bars at this point.
We know no one in Boston, and moving back into a city has no appeal for us now that we've experienced the convenience of car ownership and big box stores. Plus, the Raleigh-Durham area has a huge number of pharma companies. It's not as concentrated as Boston, but there are plenty of opportunities.
2) Cost. I know, I know... don't let the money be a factor. But would anyone go to HBS if it cost $1,000,000? At some point, the money has to become a factor. My number is somewhere around $155,000. Believe it or not, that's the post-tax net difference in cost between the programs for me. That includes the extra year of lost wages due to the BEP's third year, the dramatically higher cost of housing in Boston, and the scholarship money Duke is offering me. (It also factors in the 3rd year fellowship money from the BEP and the value of a second internship there.)
"That's peanuts in the long run," you say. Well, not really. Consider that $155,000 as an annuity -- just put it away in the bank and never touch it. It would pay me $8000+ a year, every year, for the rest of my life, working or not. Granted, I might earn substantially more out of MIT, or maybe I wouldn't. But $155,000 is enough money to make a difference in one's finances for the long term.
3) The Intangibles. Well, they're quite tangible, actually. Little factors, like North Carolina's amazing weather, make a big difference on your overall quality of life. Also, my family is within driving distance of Durham, so my child might actually know her grandparents. Plus, Fuqua has amazing facilities and the most supportive partners program at any top B-school.
They say "Don't make your decision based on the facilities... Or the weather... Or the housing... Or the location." Sage advice indeed, but at what point do all of those things add up to one very important factor? Duke just seems to have them all.
What may have sealed the deal was seeing that Fuqua is ranked in the top 10 in every field by Business Week and several of the fields that WSJ polled recruiters on. Sloan is tops for things like operations, supply-chain, and technology. But Fuqua is in the top ten in just about everything: marketing, international business, technology, healthcare, etc. That sort of broad capability appeals to me.
I know, I know... boohoo for me, having to decide between two top programs must be terrible. But it's a huge commitment of time and money, and you only get to do this once. It really has been a difficult decision because it's such a close call. But I think I'll feel a huge weight off my shoulders tomorrow if I overnight my deposit to Fuqua.
I am fortunate enough to have been accepted at both Fuqua and Sloan. After B-school, I intend to pursue a career in the healthcare industry. Fuqua has an amazing Health Sector Management program that I'm excited about. I was doubly fortunate to be also accepted to MIT's Biomedical Enterprise Program. This small 3 year program involves a Sloan MBA + a Master's from the Harvard-MIT Health Sciences Technology division. (Just writing "Harvard-MIT" makes me want to pause and reconsider this whole decision.) Three months ago, Sloan's BEP was my first choice. Heck, after I interviewed there, I said "If accepted, how could I not go?!" But after weeks of meditation on the subject, it's become a very close call. Here are my reasons why:
1) Boston vs. Durham. My wife and I are expecting our first child in a couple of months. Boston is great and all, but it's not the ideal place to be a poor student raising a baby. Durham on the other hand, offers plenty of new, spacious housing with super low rents. Even better, no lead paint! If I were 26, Boston would be the most exciting place in the world; however, I'm 30, I lived in Manhattan for five years, and my wife and I just escaped to the suburbs -- I'm not exactly going to get excited about Boston's wide selection of bars at this point.
We know no one in Boston, and moving back into a city has no appeal for us now that we've experienced the convenience of car ownership and big box stores. Plus, the Raleigh-Durham area has a huge number of pharma companies. It's not as concentrated as Boston, but there are plenty of opportunities.
2) Cost. I know, I know... don't let the money be a factor. But would anyone go to HBS if it cost $1,000,000? At some point, the money has to become a factor. My number is somewhere around $155,000. Believe it or not, that's the post-tax net difference in cost between the programs for me. That includes the extra year of lost wages due to the BEP's third year, the dramatically higher cost of housing in Boston, and the scholarship money Duke is offering me. (It also factors in the 3rd year fellowship money from the BEP and the value of a second internship there.)
"That's peanuts in the long run," you say. Well, not really. Consider that $155,000 as an annuity -- just put it away in the bank and never touch it. It would pay me $8000+ a year, every year, for the rest of my life, working or not. Granted, I might earn substantially more out of MIT, or maybe I wouldn't. But $155,000 is enough money to make a difference in one's finances for the long term.
3) The Intangibles. Well, they're quite tangible, actually. Little factors, like North Carolina's amazing weather, make a big difference on your overall quality of life. Also, my family is within driving distance of Durham, so my child might actually know her grandparents. Plus, Fuqua has amazing facilities and the most supportive partners program at any top B-school.
They say "Don't make your decision based on the facilities... Or the weather... Or the housing... Or the location." Sage advice indeed, but at what point do all of those things add up to one very important factor? Duke just seems to have them all.
What may have sealed the deal was seeing that Fuqua is ranked in the top 10 in every field by Business Week and several of the fields that WSJ polled recruiters on. Sloan is tops for things like operations, supply-chain, and technology. But Fuqua is in the top ten in just about everything: marketing, international business, technology, healthcare, etc. That sort of broad capability appeals to me.
I know, I know... boohoo for me, having to decide between two top programs must be terrible. But it's a huge commitment of time and money, and you only get to do this once. It really has been a difficult decision because it's such a close call. But I think I'll feel a huge weight off my shoulders tomorrow if I overnight my deposit to Fuqua.
19 Comments:
At 9:32 AM, Alex said…
very interesting. Any chance you could cross post the wiki ?
At 9:36 AM, MBA Jackass said…
great post - your choice sounds great. everyone i have known who went to duke loved it for many of the same reasons you described.
congratulations on your decision! good luck with the move and your upcoming baby.
At 10:05 AM, Forrest Gump said…
amazing!
I dont think I would have had the courage to turn down Sloan, not so much about rankings - but for the lure of the brand.
Wish you the very best at Duke, and best wishes for the new member in your life.
At 12:06 PM, KV said…
Congrats on making a tough decision. I remember being in your shoes last year...it was not easy.
At 12:53 PM, AynRand2008 said…
Good choice. I particularly like the lead-based paint part. I did not think of adding that to my list of reasons for not considering Boston.
I guess many buildings there were built before 1977, so lead-based paint is a big factor for babies.
Good luck!
At 6:10 PM, MJ said…
great choice :)! see you at duke!
ps: not that it would matter to you, but you're the 3rd person i've come across who's turned down sloan for duke.
At 7:40 PM, Gatsby said…
Thanks for all the well wishing! It's heartening to read about everyone else making these tough decisions.
At 7:47 PM, SgHama said…
I think you're making a choice that's right for you and that's all that matters. Awesome - at the end, it's all about just leveraging b-school to get to that first job, and maybe second. After that - does it make a difference where you went to school? Probably not. All the best at Duke!
At 9:19 PM, brownoski said…
thanks for opening up a slot for us MIT W/Lers. Your reasons for Duke are good, I've visited Fuqua and really enjoyed the environment. What are you going to name your baby?
At 1:24 PM, Anonymous said…
i have lived in both boston and chapel hill, and the quality of life in NC far exceeds that in boston, so i think you made the right choice. i myself found a better fit a school down the road and wasn't drawn to fuqua, but i have many friend who loved their time there. good luck!
At 6:16 AM, Unknown said…
Well said...
At 6:04 AM, Boutros said…
Lucky dog, moving down to Durham. I went to Duke undergrad and adored the area. I'd love to move back.
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